Oscar winner Denzel Washington recently appeared with author and pastor T.D. Jakes where the conversation soon turned to Will Smith’s infamous slap.

“There’s a saying: When the devil ignores you, then you know you’re doing something wrong. The devil goes, ‘Oh, no, leave him alone. He’s my favorite,’” said the actor. “Conversely, when the devil comes at you, maybe it’s because you’re trying to do something right. And for whatever reason, the devil got ahold of that circumstance that night.”